叛逆博主韩寒

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  韩寒,一位中国80后的名人,早年辍学,出过几本销量很好的书,如《三重门》、《长安乱》和《他的国》等;他的博客访问量也一直居高不下,最近还开通了他的网络杂志《独唱团》;他唱过歌、出过唱片;另外他也参加赛车比赛,拿过好名次……他的背景咱就不多说了吧,但凡会上上网、看看博客的人都会对他有主动或被动的关注的。他再次受到媒体的关注是,他于2010年4月入选《时代周刊》“全球最具影响力一百人”,排名第二,得到近一百万投票,引起舆论一片哗然, 到底他的“影响力”在哪里?今天我们跟随CNN记者对他的一个采访,来了解一下吧。
  他是否实至名归,见仁见智,但有一种精神我觉得应该被捍卫,我想引用那句经典的伏尔泰名句与大家分享这一精神:I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to death your right to say it.
  
  Interviewer: On line and on the rise, China’s internet users are growing. From just 22 million users in 2000, there are more than 404 million today, making China one of the most connected countries in the world. But China also has possibly the most 1)stringent cyber-censorship of any country, highlighted by the recent row between the government and Google. The US-based company ended up diverting its users to its uncensored Hong Kong site. Even so, it’s not enough to quash the determination of the country’s bloggers spreading their social commentary to the country’s 2)inquisitive younger generation.
  One of those bloggers is 27-year-old Han Han. The high school drop-out’s 3)striking a chord with millions of readers as he courts controversy with critical comments.
  This week on Talk Asia, we’re in Shanghai with the man himself, Han Han.
  记者:随着网络的高速发展,中国的网民数量正迅速地增加,从2000年的2200万用户到今天的4亿4百万,中国成为世界上通讯最发达的国家之一。但是中国却有着可能是世界上最严厉的网络审查机制,最明显的例子就是最近中国政府和谷歌的争端。这家美国公司最终将(它的中文首页)转到其不受管制的香港网站上。尽管有此政策,它还是不能完全制约这个国家的博客们,向充满好奇的年轻一代发表自己对这个社会的看法。
  其中一位博客就是27岁的韩寒,他高中辍学,拥有数百万的忠实读者,他针砭时弊的言论给他招致不少
  争议。
  这周的“对话亚洲”,我们来到上海面对面采访韩寒。
  
  Interviewer: Han Han, welcome to Talk Asia. Now you’ve just made it to number two of Time magazine’s 100 most influential people in the world. How did you react when you heard?
  Han Han: Generally speaking a person would react with joy, because Time is a very influential magazine. However, as a Chinese person, I feel a mixture of joy and worry.
  Interviewer: How come? I mean, why wasn’t it a joyous moment for you?
  Han Han: Because normally, Chinese officials or Chinese people, they tend to over think and over
  4)analyze. They would see the fact that I was included in an old-fashioned way. But, to be honest, I’ve always felt, including when I’ve been abroad, that foreigners aren’t as complicated as we thought. It’s, in fact, ourselves who complicate things.
  
  Interviewer: You’ve got some 300 million readers of your blog, what do you think accounts for your popularity? What do you think that the public relates to?
  Han Han: Everyday people read textbooks, government papers, or watch CCTV, or read the People’s Daily. If they didn’t, they would 5)collapse. They need to read my blogs and writings as well as those from other writers, because I think we tell the truth. As the exchange of information advances as the internet emerges, even though the internet is being partly censored and regulated in China, it is [sic] still opened up information. Though not completely open, it still showed the outside world to the people.
  
  Interviewer: What’s your ultimate aim in speaking out against the establishment?
  Han Han: To be honest I think a true writer and author is one who needs to give the government headaches. It doesn’t matter what type of government. In China it’s the Chinese government, and in America it’s the US government. It’s all the same. Authors simply can’t be a
  6)mouthpiece for their government, regardless of whether it’s doing well or not. So, I think that, first of all, writers should not be serving the government. They should be serving their own ideals, even if they are the same as the government’s. I still don’t believe that you should cooperate with your government. You must be independent. When the government is performing badly, you criticize it, and when the government is performing well, you could praise it, but you’re independent from each other.
  
  Han Han: I started competing in racing tournaments in 2003, when I participated in the China Rally Championship. I later competed in the formula BMW Pacific and China Circuit Championship and other types of competitions. When I watched the racing tournaments when I was young, I thought it’d be great if I could drive like that one day. And when I grew up, I realized my dream. It’s as simple as that. I was ranked number one in the 2007 China Circuit Championship, number one in 2008 China Rally Championship 1600cc group, and number one in the 2009 China Rally Championship.
  
  Interviewer: Far from being an anonymous, faceless computer geek tucked away in some garden shed somewhere, you know you’re very recognizable, you’re a celebrity in your own right, you’re a racecar driver as well, so you must enjoy the glamour side of what you do, right?
  Han Han: I really love my two jobs right now, because both jobs are very challenging and contain an element of danger. But these are not the most important things to me. The most important thing is when I was young I was very naughty. I was always called out by the teacher for chatting or reading other books during class. So I was punished and told to stand in the corner alone while others sat at their desks. So I swore to myself that my future jobs would all be sitting down. I never wanted to stand again, so I chose these two professions. I’m very satisfied.
  Interviewer: You are considered a real 7)heartthrob around these parts. Women fling themselves at you after your races. How does that sit with the contemplative
  8)intellectual in you?
  Han Han: …it’s quite hard to answer. I don’t know the…I really don’t think these two roles have any conflicting points. I think an intellectual can also chase girls and excel at it. Also, I’ve never considered myself to be an intellectual. In terms of chasing girls, Chinese intellectuals always lose to celebrities or artists and government officials. I hope to help them earn some respect on that front.
  
  Interviewer: Han Han, you come across as a very self-assured sort of a 9)bloke, but do you ever have moments, I don’t know, maybe in the dead of night when you’re blogging away, of doubt where you say, “What am I doing? I’m fighting against this massive force that’s so much bigger than I am. How can I ever win?”
  Han Han: If I always thought like that, I would be in a lot of pain. I don’t want myself to be in that sort of pain, so I won’t think like that. I will never think that I’m fighting against something.
  
  Interviewer: Han Han, I’d better let you get back to your hundreds of millions of readers, but thank you very much for spending time with us today. It was great.
  Han Han: Thank you, thank you very much.
  
  记者:韩寒,欢迎你来到“对话亚洲”。你刚刚被《时代周刊》评为全球最具影响力一百人的第二名,你听到这个消息后有什么反应?
  韩寒(通过传译,下同):一般来说,一个人听到后会很开心,毕竟《时代周刊》是一本很具权威的杂志,但作为中国人,我感到喜忧参半。
  记者:怎么会呢?我是说,你为什么不会很开心呢?
  韩寒:因为通常,中国的官方或者国人他们会想得太多,让问题复杂化。他们会用老一套的想法来看我。但事实上,我一直觉得,包括我出国的时候也觉得,外国人没有我们想得那么复杂,反倒是我们自己把事情想得太复杂了。
  (韩言寒语:有些人,居心叵测惯了,看出去觉得全世界的人都居心叵测。)
  
  记者:你的博客有3亿读者,你觉得你受欢迎的原因是什么?你认为公众为什么会看?
  韩寒:因为人们每天都在看教科书、政府文件,或看CCTV,读《人民日报》,(有的人)如果不看,他们就会崩溃。他们(更多的其他人)则需要读读我和其他博主的博文,因为我们都在说真话。网络飞速发展,信息交流量也越来越大,虽然在中国,部分的网站被审查和管制了,但是一些信息还是开放的,虽然不是完全开放,但还是向人们展现了外面的世界。
  (韩言寒语:世界上逻辑分两种,一种是逻辑,一种是中国逻辑。)
  
  记者:你这样挑战权威的最终目的是
  什么?
  韩寒:事实上,我认为,一个真正的作家或作者应该要挑政府的错,无论是什么样的政府。在中国是中国政府,在美国是美国政府,道理都是一样的。作家绝不能仅作为政府的喉舌,而不管它做得是对是错。所以,我觉得,首先作家不能为政府服务,他们应为自己的理想服务,即使自己的理想和政府是一致的,我也觉得作家不能跟自己的政府合作,而必须是独立的。政府做得不对,就批判它,政府做得对,就该赞美它,但你们是没有关系的。
  (韩言寒语:总会有光明的东西的,在未来。)
  
  韩寒:我从2003年开始赛车,参加了全国赛车拉力锦标赛,后来也参加了太平洋宝马方程式大赛、中国场地锦标赛,还有各种各样其他的比赛。我小时候看赛车比赛时,很希望有一天自己能像那样赛车。长大后,发现我实现了这个梦想。它其实非常简单。我2007年获得全国场地锦标赛冠军,在2008年获得全国场地锦标赛1600cc组冠军,以及2009年的中国拉力锦标赛冠军。
  
  记者:你从一个隐藏在花园棚某处的、默默无名、无人知晓的网络怪人,(到现在),你看你现在已很出名,是名人了,也是个赛车选手。你肯定很享受于你那光鲜靓丽的一面,对吧?
  韩寒:我很喜欢我现在的两份工作,因为这两份工作都很有挑战性,也有一定的危险。但这些对我来说并不是最重要的,最重要的是,我小时候很调皮,上课的时候,老师总是逮着我说话或者看别的书,所以通常就会是大家都坐着,而我自己在角落罚站。那时我就对自己发誓,我以后的工作得是坐着的,我再也不想站着了。所以我选择了这两份工作,非常满意。
  (韩言寒语:对于车手的心态,我个人认为任何一个在中国可以生存下去的人,都具备了很强大的心态,不需要再进行单独的心态训练了。)
  
  记者:在这些领域你被认为是个大众情人。赛车比赛后会有很多女孩子围绕着你,身为一个知识分子,你有什么想法呢?
  韩寒:……这问题很难回答,我不知道……我觉得这两个角色没有什么矛盾,知识分子也可以成为泡妞高手。当然,我也从没把自己当成知识分子。在泡妞方面,中国知识分子总是会输给明星、艺人,或者政府官员。我希望(我这样)能给知识分子挣回一点颜面。
  (韩言寒语:恋爱的话很大程度是为了自己的面子,比如学校里觉得长得好看有面子,而办公室里觉得找个有钱的有面子一样,其实爱的都是
  面子。)
  
  记者:韩寒,你给人的感觉是个很自信的小伙子,但也许有一些时刻,我不知道,可能在一个写博的午夜,你会疑惑,想:“我在干嘛啊?跟一个比我强大这么多的势力作对,我怎么可能赢呢?”
  韩寒:如果我经常这样想的话,我会很痛苦的,我不想让自己那么痛苦,所以我不会那么想。我从没在想我在对抗什么。
  (韩言寒语:我只是一介书生,在这个又痛又痒的世界里写了一些不痛不痒的文章而已,百无一用,既不能改变社会的残酷,也不能稀释傻逼的浓度。)
  
  记者:韩寒,还是赶紧把你还给你那数百万的读者吧。很感谢你能抽空接受我们的采访,非常好。
  韩寒:谢谢,非常感谢。
  
  文化小链接:我要做博主!
  
  看一看中国现在最火的博客,除却那些讲财经股票的不说,都很类似。内容上多以个人的生活点滴加感情流露为主,形式上则多是流水账似的写日记,精神上也就是“皇帝的新装”式的说一些大家都懂却没人敢说,或没人说得那么有趣的话而已。大家可能说这不就是博客的主要特点吗?当然不是了!为什么有人说中国的博客文化水平落后发达国家至少三年呢?而博客也就几年历史。又会有人说,咱们多牛啊,某些人的博客浏览量还是世界之冠呢。说到这就更要客观了,姚明有一年的NBA全明星赛球迷投票票数比乔丹和科比还多呢,但他们是一个档次的吗?有人气不代表有水平。我们来介绍一下国外博客的一些风向,大家也看看。
  国外博客与国内博客的比较如同英语网站和汉语网站的比较一样,虽然两者在互联网上的存储数据已经大体相当,但相差的就是质量问题。国外博客的定位清晰,坚持原创,言之有物,能够给他的读者提供有价值的知识。
  由“Technorati(世界最知名的博客网站)Top 100”博客排行榜显示,博客早已不再是网络日记的载体。博客涉及政治、科技、名人轶事、如何博客等专业话题。而Technorati排名第一的博客当属Huffington Post,它是由众多作者参与写作贡献,Huffington Post看起来更像一本在线杂志,俨然成为互联网第一大报。不久前,《卫报》评选“50个最有权势的博客”,Huffington Post排第一位。《时代》杂志评选“25个最好的博客”,Huffington Post同样排在第一位。在博客搜索引擎Technorati的链接数量排行榜上,Huffington Post仅次于Techcrunch。是的,现在的博客越来越像新闻报纸或杂志,Technorati排名较前的博客尤其如此。
  想做个好博主吗?再介绍给您一些与博客资源有关的网站:
  ● 博客搜索引擎(全球博客尽收眼底,分类详尽):
  Technorati
  Feedster
  Google Blog Search
  ● 关于如何写博客程序的:
  Wordpress
  Movable Type
  Blogger
  ● 研究博客的职业Blogger(教你如何利用博客挣钱):
  Problogger
  John Chow
  Pergormancing
  ● 博客设计以及设计类博客:
  The Blog Studio
  Chris Pearson
  ● Blogging技巧类博客:
  Tubetorial
  Blogging Basics by Technorati
  ● Blogging词典以及常见问题解答:
  Problogger’s A-Z of Professional Blogging
  ● 博客奖项:
  The Bloggies
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