黄一璜:读书是个老生常谈的话题,我们曾说过读书的目的是要把所读之书、所学之识融汇到自己的知识结构体系中去,成为自己知识体系的一部分,用于再创造。你怎么看这个问题? 孙京涛:以前我们谈过萨尔加多和他拍的《劳动者》,现在我们冉来看看奥古斯特·桑德(August Sander,德闻人,1876—1964)。我们曾读过一本书叫《两方的没落》,作者是斯宾格勒,他对农民、城市的小市民,对工人、官员、艺 Huang Yi Huang: Reading is a common topic. We said that the purpose of study is to integrate the knowledge of the book and knowledge learned into one’s own system of knowledge structure and to become part of one’s own knowledge system for re-creation. Sun Jingtao: We used to talk about the “laborers” that Salgado took with him. Now let’s look at August Sander (1876-1964) . We have read a book called “The Decline of Both Sides,” by Spengler, a veteran of farmers, urban citizens, workers, officials,