一九七一年十一月十日于斯德哥尔摩。我知道英格玛·伯格曼办事果断爽快,他答应给我三个半小时的采访时间,决不会允许我拖沓一分半秒。我比约定的时间早了几分钟,赶到瑞典皇家剧院。他已经辞去院长职务,却还保留着一间小小的办公室。我穿过一条接一条象没有尽头的楼道,来到了那间办公室。一位彬彬有礼的秘书迎我进去,并说伯格曼先生一会儿就到。我乘稍候的工夫,打量了室内的陈设,虽然做这件事用不了我足以使用的时间。伯格曼的办公室,几乎象影片《冬日之光》中的教堂一样地冷清,只是这儿的简朴并不超凡脱俗,也不与众不同,更不令人生畏。此外,光秃秃的白墙,被从广场和海滩那边射来的道道光芒映照得格外明亮,窗外嘈杂的人声为我们即将开始的谈话提供了背景音 November 10, 1970 in Stockholm. I know that Ingmar Bergman is decisive and resolute. He promised to give me three and a half hours’ interview time and will never allow me to procrastinate for a minute and a half. I was a few minutes earlier than agreed and arrived at the Royal Swedish Theater. He has resigned as dean, but still retains a small office. I walked through the corridor one by one like no end, came to the office. A courteous secretary approached me and said Mr. Bergman was there shortly. I took a little time to look at the interior furnishings, although I do not need this time enough to use. Bergman’s office is almost as deserted as the church in the film Winter Light, but the simplicity here is not unusual, neither unusual nor daunting. In addition, the bare white walls were brightened by the light shone from the square and the beach, and the noisy voices outside the window provided the background sound for our upcoming conversation