UED:原作设计从创立至今的15年时间,想必是一个沉潜的探索历程,在这段时间里原作设计的设计思想是否有着渐进性的发展轨迹?章明&张姿:事实上,在过去的近十年的光景中,我们一直摇摆在控制与摆脱控制之间。既有的理想建筑范式带给我们专业安全感的同时,又使我们明显地感受到它的掣肘。我们开始注意到建筑中那些更为本源的东西。它不是出 UED: original design from its inception 15 years ago, presumably a subdued exploration process, during this period the original design of the design idea has a gradual development path? Zhang Ming & Zhang Zi: In fact, in the past In the last decade, we’ve been rocking between control and getting out of control. While the existing paradigm of ideal architecture has given us a sense of professional security, it has also made us clearly feel its constraints. We begin to notice the more primitive things in architecture. It is not out