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马春梅:您经历了“中国画改造论”提出并施行的主要阶段,您怎么看待这一段历史?孙克:“中国画改造论”的提法,应是康有为较早明确提出的。康有为当时作为改良派的政治活动家,从改良的角度提出这个想法的。百日维新失败后,康有为在欧洲看到西方艺术很真实、写实,觉得中国画脱离现实,认为中国画衰落得很,觉得中国画需要改造。这种改造的思想是对照西方的状态来看中国画,在他的《万木草堂藏画目》序言中,崇宋画,贬元
Ma Chunmei: You experienced the main stage proposed and implemented in “The Theory of Chinese Painting Transformation”. What do you think of this period of history? Sun Ke: “The Theory of Chinese Painting Transformation” should be put forward earlier by Kang Youwei. Kang Youwei, a political activist who was then reformist, put forward this idea from the perspective of reform. After the failure of Hundred Days of Rehabilitation, Kang Youwei saw in Europe that Western art is very real and realistic. He thinks that Chinese painting is out of touch with reality, believing that Chinese painting has declined so much that Chinese painting needs to be reworked. The idea of this transformation is to look at the Chinese painting against the state of the West. In his preface to the painting of Wanmucao Tangcun,