孙:建筑,本来是我们颇为熟悉的事物,但有时竟会使人产生一种陌生的感觉:艺术的建筑、文化的建筑、观念的建筑甚至还有“非”建筑,这一切不免使人感到迷惑。建筑如果是一种文化,它难道不应该是人类生存理想的现实表达么? GS:人似乎已无法表达自身,他只能借助商业化、工业化了的手段来表达自身,这些手段在当今的文化模式下,只能使人与自然的关系变得日益疏远。迫切的需要是重唤卢梭所倡导的“返回自然”的观念。 Sun: Buildings are originally something we are quite familiar with, but sometimes it will make people feel strange: art architecture, cultural architecture, conceptual architecture and even non-architecture are all inevitably I am confused. If architecture is a culture, shouldn’t it be a realistic expression of the ideals of human existence? GS: Man seems to be unable to express himself. He can only express himself through the means of commercialization and industrialization. These means are in today’s culture. Under the model, only the relationship between man and nature can become increasingly alienated. The urgent need is to renew the concept of “return to nature” advocated by Rousseau.