CE:从你的文学观来看,是不是哲学家比作家对你的影响更大?刘震云:一个好的作家,首先必须是个哲学家。如果这个人仅仅是个编故事的人,他一定不会是个好作家。但好作家比哲学家要求高,哲学家能直接把有形的东西理论化,说得越明白越好。哲学家干的这些事儿,作家都不用干,作家是管说不明白的那些事儿,比如人的情感就说不明白,人性就说不明白。史为民跟李雪莲的关系,这样一个哲学命题,放在 CE: From your point of view of literature, is not philosophers more influential than writers? Liu Zhenyun: A good writer must first be a philosopher. If this person is just a storyteller, he must not be a good writer. But good writers demand more than philosophers, and philosophers can theoretically tangible things to say the more they understand the better. Philosophers do these things, writers do not have to do, writers do not understand those things, such as human emotions do not understand, humanity did not understand. History of the people with Li Xuelian relationship, such a philosophical proposition, on