政商之间的智慧碰撞沈建忠:目前,万达正在进行以国际化为背景的第四次转型,结合以文化旅游、地产为主的第三次转型来看,叠加的这种转型里面是否有一些风险要防范?另外,不少企业在转型过程中碰到了很多困扰。您能不能结合万达转型的经验和做法给出一些忠告,或是分享?王健林:万达目前经历了四次转型。第一次是地方转型往全国走;第二次是单纯的住宅走向商业地产;第三次是单纯的房地产转向文化旅游;第四次转型是两句话、两个内容:从空间上看,从本国企业转为一流的 Wisdom collision between political and business Shen Jianzhong: At present, Wanda is going through the fourth transition with internationalization as its background. Combined with the third transition focusing on cultural tourism and real estate, whether there is some risk in this transition To prevent? In addition, many companies encountered a lot of problems in the transformation process. Can you give some advice or share the experience and practices of Wanda transformation? Wang Jianlin: Wanda has undergone four transformations. The first is the transformation of the local go to the country; the second is a simple residential commercial real estate; the third is a simple real estate turned to cultural tourism; the fourth transition is two sentences, two contents: From the space point of view, From domestic enterprises to first-class