何家弘(以下简称“何”):今天是一个特殊的日子,我的心情比较沉重,而且我们谈得又是一个比较沉重的话题。当然我们不是特意把这个话题安排在清明节来谈的。但是碰巧了,北京人讲话,我们不是“尽意儿”的。我想在座的各位对这个案子都或多或少地有所了解。但是在开始谈之前,我还是要简单地把 He Jiahong (hereinafter referred to as “He ”): Today is a special day, my mood is heavy, and we talk about it is a relatively heavy topic. Of course, we do not deliberately arranged this topic to talk about during the Ching Ming Festival. But by chance, Beijing people speak, we are not I think all of you present here understand this case more or less. But before I start talking, I still have to simply put it