记得有一位官员在谈到国企改革时说过这样的话：中国的国企改革，如果还没能改到有国企经营者因为经营不善而跳楼，就不可能取得成功。他的话事实上说明一个道理，那就是国企改革一定要在国企经营者身上做文章；也一定要把企业和经营者两者的利益结合起来，形成一种责、权、利? I remember one official remarking on the reform of state-owned enterprises when he said: China's reform of state-owned enterprises is unlikely to succeed unless it has failed to change state-owned enterprise operators because of poor management. His words actually tell the truth that the reform of state-owned enterprises must make a fuss over the managers of state-owned enterprises. It is also necessary to combine the interests of both enterprises and operators to form a system of responsibilities, rights and interests.